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Oct 06 2006

Complete Idiots

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1. # IndependentConservativeon 06 Oct 2006 at 3:40 pm

   I didn’t know the appeasement of nuts was a requirement of Conservatism.

   I always thought it was the Liberals who caved under threat. Obviously your statement of Pseudo-conservatives applies to yourself and others in agreement with you.

2. # rightwingprofon 06 Oct 2006 at 4:44 pm

   You’re a moron, with no respect for these people who lost their children, just your own perverted sense of self-righteousness.

3. # IndependentConservativeon 06 Oct 2006 at 5:23 pm

   I have been denouncing the actions of the Phelps clan and tracking them for some time. But I don’t see much about them here on your blog. Maybe you should stop by my blog and do some research on them. I’ve also been identifying the best means to stop them. All that has been done is to embolden them.

   I’ve had the Phelps in my town before, so you should take the time to consider my opinion. Take a moment to consider the recommendations of someone who has been tracking them probably longer than you.

   If you knew a history of this issue, you would know that groups have successfully blocked them at the funeral sights time and time again. With the grieving families never even knowing the Phelps where there. Because of groups that block their path and display only supportive messages.

   You don’t offer religious zealots appeasement, regardless of their brand of supposed faith. It’s amazing to see how this is fully recognized with one brand of zealots (Muslims), but ignored with the Phelps.

   The Phelps’ message was given a national stage and they feel God has rewarded their efforts. Which means they will only go for something bigger next time.

   Congratulations. You’re helping your enemy and you still don’t know it.

   I pray you do one day.

4. # Independent Conservativeon 06 Oct 2006 at 7:35 pm

   Mike Gallagher Claims He Does Not Understand Why His Appeasement Offer to the Phelps Was Condemned? What a Crock!

   So TailOverTeaKettle.com is reporting:

   Mike Gallagher’s Response

   I caught a few minutes of the Mike Gallagher show today, and he opened saying he just couldn’t unde[r]stand the bloggers and other radio hosts who condemned his giving one ho…

5. # Jeffrey Quickon 09 Oct 2006 at 1:22 pm

   Paying blackmail-in-kind to Westboro Baptist is a different issue from the right of the Amish to be unmolested. Calling people “morons” doesn’t erase that distinction. Nor does making the assuption that that is the only solution that would bring a satisfactory result for the Amish. And it’s not a satisfactory result for me; since when are the Amish “more equal”?

   Personally, I think that the martyrdom of the Phelpses is long overdue.

6. # rightwingprofon 09 Oct 2006 at 2:31 pm

   Jeffrey Quick on October 9, 2006 at 1:22 pm said:

   Paying blackmail-in-kind to Westboro Baptist is a different issue from the right of the Amish to be unmolested. Calling people “morons” doesn’t erase that distinction. Nor does making the assuption that that is the only solution that would bring a satisfactory result for the Amish. And it’s not a satisfactory result for me; since when are the Amish “more equal”?

   Personally, I think that the martyrdom of the Phelpses is long overdue.

   The Phelps crew didn’t get a spot on CNN. They got an hour on Mike Gallagher, a small-time player in the talk radio market, with what, maybe a half million listeners, all of whom were no doubt disgusted by whatever it was the Phelps crew ranted about. Talk show audiences are a self-selecting audience; people listen to Mike (or Glenn or Rush or whoever your favorite may be) because they tend to agree with him.

   Calling it blackmail is grossly overstating the issue. They got basically no exposure at all. Anybody who would have preferred that the Phelps crew had disrupted the funerals to being allowed to talk for an hour to a very small group of people is, yes, a moron.

7. # IndependentConservativeon 09 Oct 2006 at 2:49 pm

   Rather than being drowned out by a town full of counter-protestors supporting the grieving families, they were given access to at least 3.5 million ears.

   The Radio Equalizer: Brian Maloney: Annual Talk Host Rankings Revealed
   “8. Mike Gallagher (t) 3.5 million”
   http://radioequalizer.blogspot.com/2005/05/annual-talk-host-rankings-revealed.html

   Since then Mike claims his show is now #6, meaning his reach is probably even greater than 3.5 million.

   When you’re in the top 10 of talkers in the nation, you’re not a small time player.

   Some deal. Instead of drowning them out, give them the masses.

   Buh-Byel

8. # rightwingprofon 09 Oct 2006 at 3:06 pm

   The point still stands.

   I’m really curious, though, why so many people suddenly got all bent out of shape about Phelps only after he started protesting at soldiers’ funerals. He and his crew were around, protesting gay funerals all through the 90s, and it was all over the news. So were you howling about Phelps then, or are you just another hypocrite?

9. # Jeffrey Quickon 09 Oct 2006 at 3:44 pm

   Yes, I was howling about Phelps during the ’90s. But then, I am not a conservative, and I don’t have an issue about gays. (I’m a musician; too many gay people to have issues about, lol!) I think that you’re right; a lot more people started feeling more strongly about it when the target changed. Though certainly “Matthew Shepard is in Hell” was not a popular sentiment back then either.

10. # rightwingprofon 09 Oct 2006 at 5:00 pm

    Actually, I wasn’t addressing you. I suppose I should have used the quote feature.

11. # IndependentConservativeon 09 Oct 2006 at 5:23 pm

    I disagreed with the Phelps back when they claimed Shepard went to hell, which was the first time I had ever heard of them. God is the judge of that.

    Regardless of who speaks against the Phelps, their actions are wrong. So whether someone decides to speak against them now or did it 10 years ago does not matter regarding this deal made by Mike G. now. He may have ignored them 10 years ago himself. He probably was on the air then. Do you know what he was saying about them then? Maybe he’s the hypocrite.

    What matters it preventing their garbage from growing and them feeling “blessed by God” to continue.

    You don’t break this bunch by giving them airtime on the 6th most popular radio talk show in America. They have only been inspired to continue and will now only get worse.

    I know you and others in agreement with you feel Mike did the right thing, but just like Clinton giving money to North Korea, it’s only made things worse.

    You’ll see. In the future the Phelps will be announcing their actions ahead of time and also telling what will be an acceptable form of pay-off.

    You just helped the extortion business go to the next level!

12. # Jeffrey Quickon 10 Oct 2006 at 8:52 am

    OK, you weren’t addressing me, but it’s still an interesting question — so much so that I asked my wife about it. She’s a former union worker, HS grad (barely)…pretty much a normal American, except that she insists on using the brain power she has (which is why I’m married to her; I have no respect for those who refuse to think). And she said, “I was vaguely aware of Phelps, but I figured that gay people are all smarter than I am, so let them deal with him, since he’s not my problem. But when he started picking on my soldiers” (she’s a veteran), “I got mad.”

    One swallow does not make a spring, but I’ll bet a lot of other Americans looked at it the same way.